1 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:20,710 mr golden uh columbia is ready go ahead 2 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,910 what are you doing with this atomic 3 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:27,680 oxygen experiment i noticed that you're 4 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:29,200 going to be doing an atomic oxygen 5 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:32,320 experiment before you reel in the wake 6 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:45,030 satellite and do a free flyer activation 7 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:46,240 hanging out 8 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:48,479 on the end of the arm at a certain angle 9 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:52,240 which will let the ram uh atomic oxygen 10 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:54,399 impinge upon the substrates 11 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:56,399 and that is a way of uh 12 00:02:03,590 --> 00:01:59,200 it's a way of almost like a micro lathe 13 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:07,030 i see i see 14 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:08,800 however how much more work do you have i 15 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:10,239 i guess you folks want to stay up an 16 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:11,680 extra day to make up for the day that 17 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,470 you're reading your mind sir um 18 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:20,000 we've got quite a bit more work to do 19 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:23,040 two more evas two ebas as you know on 20 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:25,200 flight days 10 and 12 and then we have 21 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:27,920 to retrieve orpheus spas on 22 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:30,560 flight day 14 as it's currently planned 23 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:32,879 and plenty of other science that's in 24 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:34,239 the mid deck 25 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,800 on columbia that we'll be working uh in 26 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,000 the hours in between those activities 27 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:42,800 you know i just noticed uh uh looking at 28 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:44,720 the schedule while we'll all be eating 29 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:47,280 turkey and relaxing on thanksgiving 30 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:49,360 tammy and tom will be doing the space 31 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,640 walks 32 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:52,480 at least you'll get a chance to work off 33 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:54,000 your holiday meal what do you plan to 34 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:00,630 mr gold mrs tom jones the 35 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:03,599 ms2 aboard and we'll be hitting the deck 36 00:03:07,990 --> 00:03:05,200 running that morning when we wake up on 37 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:08,000 eva day on thanksgiving and so we'll 38 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:10,080 jump right into our eva uh 39 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:12,400 uh underwear if you will and get right 40 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:14,319 into the space you check out we'll have 41 00:03:17,589 --> 00:03:16,400 a breakfast a quick one before we get 42 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:17,599 into the suits 43 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:20,319 and it's about a six and a half hour eva 44 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,319 and when we get back inside believe me 45 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:24,480 uh we'll be hungry for that thanksgiving 46 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:25,920 turkey we've got some 47 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:26,799 uh 48 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:28,000 off-the-shelf 49 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:30,000 kind of supermarket 50 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:31,760 room temperature stabilized turkey 51 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:32,799 dinners 52 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:34,319 uh that we'll be uh digging into right 53 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:36,000 after i get out get that helmet off when 54 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,519 they come back in from the eva so i'll 55 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:40,000 be hungry and we'll all be uh i think 56 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:41,360 anxious to have a meal together after 57 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:49,990 you didn't make it sound too appetizing 58 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:51,990 one has to make do with the resources at 59 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:57,910 hey story i tell you uh we're all very 60 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:04,070 i think that what you're showing is 61 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:05,599 it is not 62 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:08,480 a chronological age that counts 63 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:10,239 it's what's in your heart your mind and 64 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:12,000 your body 65 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:14,319 and you're doing a terrific job up there 66 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,000 you're setting the record for the oldest 67 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:18,239 astronaut in space 68 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:21,280 and i i think this is just wonderful i i 69 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:24,400 i congratulate you and uh i stand in awe 70 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:30,550 thank you very much sir it's been a 71 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:32,800 incredible privilege and experience to 72 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:34,800 have been able to follow my calling for 73 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:36,160 30 years 74 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:38,160 i think that's the important thing uh 75 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:40,160 it's not just in a mold although in my 76 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,680 60s 77 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:43,520 i do feel really privileged to get to do 78 00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:44,960 these kind of things i think the 79 00:04:48,629 --> 00:04:46,720 important thing though is that i have 80 00:04:52,469 --> 00:04:48,639 had the opportunity to follow my calling 81 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:55,270 you know one other thing that we noticed 82 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,759 that uh both you and tammy 83 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:59,759 are joining the thousand hour club in 84 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:01,120 space 85 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,960 and uh this is another notable 86 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:04,320 achievement 87 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:06,880 and again i stand in awe and i i gotta 88 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:08,800 say i'm a little bit jealous i'd like to 89 00:05:12,550 --> 00:05:11,120 get just two hours in space but it 90 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:12,560 doesn't look like it's going to happen 91 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:23,189 hi mr gold and i i think that your 92 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:24,560 feelings are shared by a lot of people 93 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:25,919 on the ground we wish 94 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:28,080 this opportunity was widely available to 95 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:29,600 everyone i hope that's coming in the 96 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:30,560 next 97 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,560 few years with uh commercialization of 98 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,479 space maybe even some tourism but i'll 99 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:35,759 tell you the two hours that you should 100 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:37,600 pick to have in space and not the first 101 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:39,520 two hours you should choose ones on 102 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:40,800 about flight day five and everyone's 103 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:42,160 feeling terrific and 104 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,830 you all look terrific 105 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:49,199 keep it safe 106 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,840 we're very very very proud of you i 107 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:53,520 think this is just a wonderful mission 108 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:55,440 you look very relaxed 109 00:06:00,390 --> 00:05:58,000 and i'll be watching you on nasa tv over 110 00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:00,400 the holidays and when you eat the turkey 111 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:03,199 uh i'll recognize what you're doing 112 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:04,560 you're wonderful you're the america's 113 00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:11,110 thanks for the kind words mr goldman and 114 00:06:20,150 --> 00:06:17,990 the next step in columbia's mission is a 115 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:20,160 spacewalk scheduled for thanksgiving day 116 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:22,160 mission specialists thomas jones and 117 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:24,000 tamara jernigan will spend six hours 118 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:26,160 walking in space thursday with the start 119 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:27,840 of construction on an international 120 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:29,919 space station just one year away nasa is 121 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:31,919 anxious to learn as much as possible 122 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:34,479 about zero gravity working conditions 123 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:35,919 joining us this morning from shuttle 124 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:37,919 columbia are three nasa crew members 125 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:40,240 they are pilot kent rominger commander 126 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:42,080 ken cockrell and mission specialist 127 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:43,520 story musgrave gentlemen good morning 128 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:50,230 good morning from columbia 129 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:52,319 cockrell all the delicate maneuvering 130 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:53,759 during satellite deployment and 131 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:55,840 retrieval takes time as we have seen in 132 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:57,199 the past now you had to pull the 133 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:58,400 wakefield 134 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:00,800 facility satellite early to avoid a 135 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:09,589 well there's nothing close really about 136 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,360 it the two satellites were about 14 137 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:13,599 miles apart when we flew between them to 138 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:15,440 retrieve 139 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:17,680 uh it's just a question of uh 140 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:19,840 making sure that we have proper 141 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:21,599 clearance in case we 142 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:22,400 uh 143 00:07:25,510 --> 00:07:23,440 for 144 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:25,520 inaccuracies and in our sensors or 145 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:28,080 anything other going wrong we should 146 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:30,240 deviate from the straight and narrow as 147 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:32,160 it turns out we were very accurate and 148 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,680 and what we thought the satellites were 149 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,280 and we flew about seven miles away from 150 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,440 each one of them 151 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,039 story musgrave could you tell us a 152 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:41,599 little bit more about the uh the wake 153 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:43,360 shield what it does and how we will 154 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:50,869 the purpose of lake hill time is to grow 155 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:52,720 some 156 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:55,520 as perfect as possible semiconductors 157 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:57,680 electrodynamic materials 158 00:08:01,909 --> 00:08:00,160 classically as you know silicon has has 159 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:01,919 been the 160 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,000 material of choice 161 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,479 we're using more advanced materials such 162 00:08:10,309 --> 00:08:08,960 as arsenic gallium 163 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,319 aluminum 164 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:12,720 and what we're doing is molecule by 165 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:15,440 molecule we're making perfect layers in 166 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:17,440 a vacuum which is about 10 to the minus 167 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:18,639 14 168 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:20,639 versus 10 to the minus 6 which you can 169 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:22,639 make down here on earth so there's no 170 00:08:27,189 --> 00:08:25,280 contaminating molecules in those layers 171 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:27,199 we go up there with a substrate that has 172 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:28,720 a certain form 173 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:31,759 we inject layers of molecules on top of 174 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:34,000 that form they replicate that form in 175 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:35,120 layers 176 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:38,000 and that's what we're up to is exploring 177 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,880 the possibility of making perfect 178 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:42,000 semiconductors up there 179 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,240 not only uh studying commercial 180 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:46,320 viability but also if you do make 181 00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:47,760 perfect uh 182 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:49,120 materials 183 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:51,680 um how much better are they than the 184 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:53,680 ones that are made down here so it's a 185 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:57,360 very state-of-the-art uh exploration 186 00:09:01,269 --> 00:08:59,519 uh pilot kent rominger the orpheus 187 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:01,279 telescope which has also been deployed 188 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:02,959 from the shuttle how does it function 189 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:05,360 and what can it see that the the hubble 190 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:11,990 on the orifice it's primarily looking at 191 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:14,080 uv and it's really there to study not 192 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,160 only stars which is hubble's primary 193 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:18,320 focus but also the medium the 194 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:20,800 interstellar medium the medium out there 195 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,959 in between the stars and being a pilot i 196 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:24,320 didn't realize there was really much in 197 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:26,080 that great vacuum but the 198 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:27,920 astrophysicists on board have educated 199 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:29,360 me that in fact 200 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:31,200 there is material in that medium in 201 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:32,720 between the stars and the interstellar 202 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:33,680 medium 203 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:35,440 and from that we can learn a lot about 204 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:38,560 the history of where the world came from 205 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:40,720 uh curiosity question for anyone who 206 00:09:45,829 --> 00:09:43,120 wants to answer it in zero gravity there 207 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:45,839 is is no up or down your heads up to the 208 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:47,839 camera relative to the camera but the 209 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,519 shuttle might be upside down relative to 210 00:09:58,870 --> 00:09:51,120 earth how do you how do you deal with 211 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:01,190 tom i think you go into space uh 212 00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:02,800 the best way to adapt is going to space 213 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:04,959 with a totally open mind to go into 214 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:07,279 space realizing you've been created and 215 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:09,600 evolved with this gravitational field 216 00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:11,600 which has designed you and designed the 217 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:13,440 senses with which you perceive your 218 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:14,560 environment 219 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:16,079 now you're in a totally different kind 220 00:10:19,829 --> 00:10:17,920 of environment and i think an openness 221 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:19,839 to the possibilities 222 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:22,720 that at times the floor is down at times 223 00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:25,200 the ceiling is down being able to put 224 00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:27,279 that perceived down direction in any 225 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:29,600 direction you'd like or do away with it 226 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:32,000 to expect some kind of illusions where 227 00:10:36,949 --> 00:10:34,720 you're felt the body sense of what is 228 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:36,959 going on is very different from the 229 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:39,040 abstract intellectual knowledge of what 230 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,320 is going on if you can live comfortably 231 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:44,959 with conflicts between those two and 232 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,040 different sensory conflicts coming from 233 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:49,120 different sensors such as the vestibular 234 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:51,279 system the joints and muscles the 235 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:52,880 cardiovascular system then you're going 236 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:54,560 to be a lot more comfortable a lot 237 00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:56,240 faster 238 00:11:00,710 --> 00:10:58,800 story this is your final nasa mission 239 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:00,720 i'm just wondering if there are any uh 240 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:03,040 any pangs of sadness creeping in as you 241 00:11:16,389 --> 00:11:13,910 absolutely none and i think you said it 242 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:16,399 exactly right it has been a glorious 243 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:17,680 career 244 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,120 the important thing is i've had the 245 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:21,279 privilege an opportunity to follow what 246 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:24,480 is a calling uh for 30 years 247 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,240 uh nasa has told me not to expect 248 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,560 assignment to another mission um 249 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,959 medically physically ability perform i 250 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:32,720 could go on and do more but it may be 251 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:35,279 the right decision at the right time 252 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:37,200 they and other people do know that i'm 253 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:38,880 unable to walk away from this kind of 254 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,640 thing i still love it too much i would 255 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:42,720 keep on doing it forever until someone 256 00:11:48,550 --> 00:11:45,680 were to tell me it's about that time 257 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:48,560 and so there are aspects such as that uh 258 00:11:52,790 --> 00:11:50,320 you want to share space flight with as 259 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:52,800 many people as you can i've had a 260 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:54,160 privilege of 261 00:11:57,829 --> 00:11:56,480 six flights a lot of time a lot of very 262 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:57,839 good missions 263 00:12:01,509 --> 00:12:00,079 and i've run a i've run a wonderful race 264 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,519 but there are people waiting for the 265 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:03,920 baton you also want to be sure that you 266 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:05,519 leave this kind of job when you're at 267 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:07,200 your peak and i consider the last 268 00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:08,959 initial hubble repair mission in this 269 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:11,360 one i'm really about it might be 270 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,480 so there are 271 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:14,560 there are factors in the entire equation 272 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:16,320 which which maybe would support this 273 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:17,360 decision 274 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:19,920 but no i have no regrets at all i look 275 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:22,000 as you said at the glory of a fantastic 276 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:24,079 career the important thing is that